Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/30/1994 01:41 PM Senate HES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
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 CHAIRMAN RIEGER called the Senate Health, Education and Social                
 Services (HESS) Committee to order at 1:41 p.m.  He introduced                
  SB 301  (REVISE FOUNDATION FORMULA, SMALL SCHOOLS) as the first              
 order of business before the committee.                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR, Prime Sponsor, explained that SB 301 addresses two            
 major concerns:  a significant drop in the Sitka school district's            
 enrollment and funding for small single site school districts.  He            
 read his sponsor statement.  He commented on the continuing battle            
 over the single site issue.  SB 301 amends the funding formula for            
 education in Alaska, which seems to be a big issue.  He suggested             
 repairing the entire single site issue.  He noted the various lists           
 of single site schools who need financial aid, B.A. Weinberg's list           
 should be reviewed.  He anticipated an additional decrease of 100             
 students in the Sitka school district.                                        
 SENATOR ELLIS asked if Senator Randy Phillips' bill would be before           
 the HESS committee.  CHAIRMAN RIEGER noted that Senator Phillips'             
 bill had just been passed out of the Community & Regional Affairs             
 (C&RA) committee, and would be before HESS.                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER agreed that Sitka's problem was immediate.  The               
 reason SB 301 would not be moved today was to allow further                   
 consideration of section 2.                                                   
                                                                               
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 SENATOR ELLIS asked if SB 301 was related to the "hold harmless"              
 provision regarding property value assessments.  That "hold                   
 harmless" provision would require the state to make up the                    
 difference when property value assessments fall below a certain               
 level.  The student would not feel the effects of the decrease in             
 property values.  He thought that once property values increased              
 the state would continue to pay that increased amount of support.             
                                                                               
 DUANE GUILEY, Department of Education (DOE), informed the committee           
 that the "hold harmless" to which Senator Ellis referred has not              
 been adopted.  The "hold harmless" in SB 301 exists in current                
 statutes.  He explained that the "hold harmless" in SB 301 refers             
 to when a district has a 10 percent loss in K-12 units, which may             
 be the direct loss of students or the loss of students identified             
 in supplemental education categories.  The "hold harmless" in SB
 301 is not related to the one referred to by Senator Ellis.  He               
 noted that the formula automatically annually adjusts for the                 
 differences in assessed property value two years prior; as property           
 values go up in a community, state aid goes down.  The basic need             
 stays the same, so the community would make up a greater share when           
 property values are high.                                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO inquired as to the position of DOE on SB 301.  DUANE             
 GUILEY noted support, contingent upon funding, from the State Board           
 of Education to the single site bill in the House.  The department            
 nor the board has a position on a change to the "hold harmless."              
 Currently, only the Sitka school district would be effected by this           
 change due to its scheduled 7 percent reduction in K-12 units.  Mr.           
 Guiley noted that three other districts would be eligible under the           
 10 percent: Adak, Aleutian Region, and Southeast Island.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP asked how many students are in Adak.  DUANE GUILEY              
 stated that the projected enrollment for Adak next year is 150                
 students, which is down from 550 this year.  The Navy predicts that           
 there would be no students at Adak by July 1.                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP asked how much funding would Adak receive with 150              
 students under the 10 percent rule.  DUANE GUILEY explained that              
 Adak would receive 75 percent of the revenue they would have                  
 received with 550 students.  The following year they would receive            
 50 percent of the revenue for 550 students, the next year they                
 would receive 25 percent of the revenue, and the fourth year they             
 would receive zero.                                                           
                                                                               
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 SENATOR SHARP asked when that funding would end.  DUANE GUILEY said           
 that under current statutes the school district would continue to             
 receive the money after there are no students.  SENATOR SHARP                 
 inquired as to the number of students of single site school                   
 districts.  DUANE GUILEY said that he would provide that                      
 information for the committee.  The "hold harmless" in statute is             
 based on the percentage change in K-12 units, which may come from             
 varying things such as the number of students or the profile of the           
 student body.  Mr. Guiley clarified that in Sitka the 5 percent               
 reduction in K-12 units is actually a decrease in students.                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN expressed the need to consider a maximum trigger                
 which would make the three or four year phase out inappropriate.              
 DUANE GUILEY said he would review that situation.  Mr. Guiley noted           
 that there had been discussion of creating a secondary "hold                  
 harmless" where the loss is greater than 10 percent and the                   
 district would receive less than 75 percent.  Mr. Guiley pointed              
 out that contractual obligations are often more that 75 percent of            
 the budget; the timing of the circumstances is very important as to           
 whether the district could absorb the loss and adjust the program.            
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP requested the actual case history of Adak.  DUANE               
 GUILEY said he would provide that to the committee.                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR SALO thought that a maximum would be difficult to arrive at           
 because of the deadline information.  She requested that Mr. Guiley           
 suggest other statutory ways that an Adak situation could be                  
 handled while giving the department flexibility.  Sending money to            
 places without students is absurd.                                            
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN RIEGER held SB 301.                                                  
                                                                               
 SENATOR ELLIS commented that he supported the change, but without             
 a comprehensive re-write of the formula his attitude changes.  He             
 inquired as to the plan on the overall re-write.  CHAIRMAN RIEGER             
 said that as of yet, there was not a plan.                                    

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